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gardyloo
Titel: Smart Package Manager strangeness  BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 21:08 Uhr



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Hi, all,

I've been playing with the "smart" package manager. It's kind of neat (I use it more on the research group's SUSE installation because it seems to do a considerably better job than SUSE's native Yast2, and plays well with apt4rpm). However, just recently I've been having troubles with running it on Kanotix.

If I try to open the smart gui directly, it just crashes. If I so a "smart update" from the cli, an "updating cache" is shown in the terminal (seems to work fine), then the lines

Zitat:
Fetching information for './ -' ...
Fatal: failed to acquire the pool lock: Operation not permitted

All of the other methods for updating/downloading (apt-get, aptitude, kpackage, synaptic) seem to work fine.

Any clues? Of course I've tried running this in various "root" ways, like kdesu, sudo, sux, etc.

[Edit:] It seems that smart was broken by a bug in python-pycurl -- bug reports have been trickling in since the time I noticed the br0ken smartpm. So it seems that this will be resolved sometime soonish in the future.


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Titel: RE: Smart Package Manager strangeness  BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 22:07 Uhr
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Sorry but I have no idea about Smart package manager but I do know this. Many times people have said "We now have something better than apt" but I'm still waiting for something better than apt. Winken

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Titel: RE: Smart Package Manager strangeness  BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 22:32 Uhr



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After smart has "successfully" destroyed dpkg's package integrity, there's really not much to do than re- installing.
 
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gardyloo
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 02.08.2006, 01:40 Uhr



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Good points! I don't usually use Smart on my kanotix installation, because the packages immediately available to me as a Kanotix/Debian are much more numerous than those for SUSE 10.0 on a 64-bit machine.

I don't think that Smart has really screwed up the dpkg system (as I think was implied; I might be wrong!), as dpkg, apt, etc. works just fine.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 02.08.2006, 01:53 Uhr



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It has, because the on-disk state is seriously different from what dpkg expects and acts upon - I call that broken beyond repair.
 
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gardyloo
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 02.08.2006, 02:32 Uhr



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Ah. Perhaps we're talking at cross-purposes here. Are you saying that the error prompting "failed to acquire pool lock" as in my first message is indicative of a screwed up database (or collection of .debs, or something -- I'm not really sure how the package managers keep track of this stuff!) on my computer? I would naively guess that dpkg and apt would ALSO barf if that were the case. They seem to work just fine for me.
 
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gardyloo
Titel: Fixed.  BeitragVerfasst am: 08.08.2006, 18:41 Uhr



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OK, if anyone is interested, downgrading python-pycurl to (at least for me) 7.15.4-1 solves the "pool lock" problem. Apparently it's a bug in that package.
 
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Titel: RE: Fixed.  BeitragVerfasst am: 09.08.2006, 07:54 Uhr



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neverthless don*t use smart, it installs packages with --force and so destroys the systems package-integrity
 
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gardyloo
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 09.08.2006, 19:06 Uhr



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Zitat:

neverthless don*t use smart, it installs packages with --force and so destroys the systems package-integrity


Ohhhhh. Now THAT I didn't know. Thank you! I'll leave it alone on my Kanotix system.
 
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