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Titel: Re: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution  BeitragVerfasst am: 31.07.2006, 16:50 Uhr



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drb,
unfortunatelly, unchecking/checking AA did not help here (did it as root because of synaptic).

About mounting as user:
pmount and pumount are working.

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Titel: RE: Re: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution  BeitragVerfasst am: 31.07.2006, 21:14 Uhr



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I can reproduce the mounting error.

the drive is recognized, but not mounted. Icon appears on desktop, mount option is present, but when tried that error message pops up.

Thanks for noticing that hubi, now to find the solution

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Titel: RE: Re: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution  BeitragVerfasst am: 31.07.2006, 22:24 Uhr



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Just reported a bug against kdebase-kio-plugins 3.5.4-2. Think that's the candidate for the mounting problems.
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution  BeitragVerfasst am: 31.07.2006, 22:34 Uhr



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great, shouldn't be long for the solution.

Music cds etc seem to play fine though, since they aren't actually mounted. Only data type mounting isn't working.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 31.07.2006, 22:41 Uhr



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If you like to mount the devices graphically, then you can take the filemanager of XFCE named thunar (apt-get install thunar).

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 31.07.2006, 23:11 Uhr



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Just got an answer to my bugreport:

Zitat:
The root of the problem is bug #377689 in HAL. Feel free to read that
for more details. You can work around the issue for now by ensuring
that all your drives have lines in /etc/fstab with the "user" option.

Cheers,
Christopher Martin


It was my second bugreport at Debian in my life, but what I really adore is, the answers are delivered quickly, precisely and very,very politely.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 31.07.2006, 23:49 Uhr



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Yes, I had the first part of the solution from the debian qt-kde team in about 1 hour after posting on their irc channel, same story, solution, polite.

Hal bug:
http://www.archivum.info/linux.debian.b ... 03124.html

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 00:22 Uhr



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I am new to kanotix, and did a "test install" (2005-04) weekend before last (7/22) to play around with. I was nervous about using kanotix because it's based on unstable, while on my old system I'd been using libranet that I'd updated to sarge.

During my test install I could easily apt-get some kde things like celestia and an internationalization package. This past weekend (7/29) I found I couldn't, at least not without upgrading some bits of kde to 3.5. This thread cleared it all up for me, I was wondering if I was going nuts.

Two questions, because I'm unfamiliar with how unstable and testing are updated:

1. Does this type of thing happen often, where versions of important software are upgraded (i.e. 3.4.x --> 3.5.x) within the release?
2. How long should I expect to wait before it's safe to upgrade all of kde to 3.5 so I can get my toys?
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 02:11 Uhr



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For the mounting issue with KDE 3.5.4 Kano provided informations in the german language forum for a workaround (which might be gone after the next update of hal, or better: might be irrelevant by an upgrade from Sid).

Here it positivly affects USB-devices (sticks, hard-disks - YES: I can mount them!), it does not affect DVDs or CDs here (IDE-connected DVD-writer).

The workaround is to edit /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf as root and change the last paragraph to this format:
Zitat:
<!-- You can change this to a more suitable user, or make per-group -->
<policy group="plugdev">
<!--
<allow send_interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement"/>
<allow send_interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.LaptopPanel"/>
-->
<allow send_interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume"/>
<allow send_interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.Crypto"/>
</policy>
Just check if the user is member of the group plugdev.

Just for the sake of good sleep, I backed up the original hal.conf:
# cp /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf.original

Please check also if you really do not need the first two lines, otherwise delete the "arrows".

It might be the maximum I can get out of this situation.

hubi

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 02:41 Uhr



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The fix for the poor fonts in FF and gtk worked for me. Just unchecked, saved then rechecked "Use antialiased fonts" box in kcontrol. Now I am happy Smilie
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 03:22 Uhr



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herring, it happens every few months. Hard to say how long to wait, cdroms are not being read correctly if it's a data cd still, so the fixes have to come down the pipe, no guarantees. And if you have weird enough toys, you might be the first person to find a new issue. So you can't say for sure.

to mount data cdroms, you have to do this currently:

pmount /dev/hdc [assuming your cdrom is actually /dev/hdc
pumount /dev/hdc [to unmount]

run this command to see what your system is using as link:
ls -l /dev/cdrom

your output will look like this:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jul 31 11:07 /dev/cdrom -> hdc

music cdroms work fine without this though

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 07:32 Uhr



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Did a du today using the du-fixes-h2.sh script. Read this thread very carefully and h2 instructions more than once before I began. wrote down info to follow. Really easy to follow and everything explained. Loaded kde up real nice for me. Did the bit with kcontrol on the fonts. Even got my ati X1600 pro card installed. The only problem that I am having is the KDE keyboard tool is showing an error:

"error changing keyboard layout to 'us' ".

I get err instead of a flag. Everything works okay though.

This was my first du and have only had kanotix for about a week. Can't believe how smooth it went. Thanks h2.

John
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 14:27 Uhr



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Got CD-ROM/DVD mounting via icon now as well. You have to comment the line starting with /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab like that:
Zitat:
# /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0


Source:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepor ... ug=377689+

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 14:37 Uhr
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hubi,
works here without commenting in fstab, with the new fix.

greetz
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 17:21 Uhr



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hal-kanotix upgrade fixed the problem; no comments against CDRom fstab entries but had to comment out sda1 to get USB stick to work.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 17:38 Uhr



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Just so I understand, I checked what groups I belonged to:

root@WorldsEnd:/home/joyboy# /usr/bin/groups joyboy
joyboy : joyboy dialout fax voice cdrom floppy tape sudo audio dip video games users usb scanner camera plugdev fuse

I noticed the debian fix shows
<policy group="powerdev">
<allow
which is in my hal.conf file as well, and hubi's fix shows
<policy group="plugdev">
<!--
And I was wondering what the difference means & subsequently which one would be best for me to use? Also when or if an upgrade fix becomes avaliable for this HAL problem, will it be necessary to edit hal.conf once again?
BTW, I see that the -w switch is necessary in order to force pmount to mount r/w
Thanks.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 18:06 Uhr



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2radical

I did a d-u - it includes a hal-kanotix upgrade. This rewrites hal.conf during the set up to include both groups.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 19:19 Uhr



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Thanks..

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 19:43 Uhr



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Last hal-kanotix upgrade don't work for me. Now, when I try to mount a data cd-dvd, Konqueror sends me a error message: "Permissions denied".



Greets.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 19:53 Uhr



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fantassio: Add yourself to the plugdev group. (System/Kuser/Select Yourself/Edit/Groups/....)
That does the trick.
Greetings,
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 19:55 Uhr



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fantasio, you have to comment out the cdrom line in /etc/fstab

/dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 users,noauto 0 0

place a # in front of it, save, then reboot, and your cdrom should read data cds again

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 19:56 Uhr



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There is a fix for the hal issue now? If so will try it out tonight
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 20:07 Uhr



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deepdayze, it's a kanotix patch for hal that will be installed with a dist-upgrade, then you just have to commnet out that line in /etc/fstab

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 20:33 Uhr



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Thanks,Slam, my user was in plugdev group. Comment out the cdrom line in fstab works. Now, I can mount cds in Konqueror.

Thanks a lot!

Greetings.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 01.08.2006, 21:42 Uhr



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the du-fixes-h2 script now has the option to run a fix for the cd/dvd rom mounting issue.

It will look for cdrom and dvd entries in /etc/fstab and comment them out if it finds them. It will let you know if it finds them. If you have two dvd roms or two cdroms it won't work, although it will probably get at least one of them.

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