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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 09, 2006 - 05:41 AM




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mzilikazi wrote:
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There should be plenty of solutions available for Linux now to meet most needs.


Well that's just it, converting is not the issue, editing is and there aren't any Linux image editors capable of editing in 16 bit mode (except for Krita apparently). That's not even an option for me personally but I have a friend or two that may find that to be good news. So does Lightzone edit 16 bit raw images or no?


I haven't even loaded it yet, and I'm not familiar with the product. lol

But, it probably uses a 16 bit workspace (many modern image editors do, Gimp is an exception).

There are some others around for Linux, too {a product called Pixel is one example), and you can use some of the Windows editors around under Wine.

It all depends on the sophistication you need. Some users never do ayything mroe than they can do in some of the raw converters (many have some editing capability built in). Others go much further with an image.

When I was looking at the feasilibty of switcihng to Linux last year, all I did was make sure I had some basic tools available. I made sure Bibble (the version available at the time) ran OK, and got the FastStone Image Viewer running under Wine as a browsing tool with basic editing ability, and figured that I could expand from there with additional tools under Wine if I couldn't find anything I liked available for Linux.

So, it looked like most of the pieces were in place, and I'm not going to insiet on 16 bit editing only for most of my needs.

You can make basic exposure adjustmetns and apply curves in some of the raw converters around.

So, you don't run into much of a problem with the rest anyway. I rarely do a lot other than a bit of USM and cropping after raw conversion.

I'll do some digging around and see what works well under Linux over the next week or so. I don't normally use Linux. So, I'm not very familiar with the tools you can get for it yet (other than well known products like Bibble).

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Here's another project that may be worth a look that appears to support a 16 bit workspace:

http://www.cinepaint.org/

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mzilikazi wrote:
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There should be plenty of solutions available for Linux now to meet most needs.


Well that's just it, converting is not the issue, editing is and there aren't any Linux image editors capable of editing in 16 bit mode (except for Krita apparently). That's not even an option for me personally but I have a friend or two that may find that to be good news.


And yet Linux image tool that supports 16 bit..

Apparently, Digicam went 16 bit in April. Some info:

* All Image Plugins now support 16 bit
* New Black and White converter plugin for Image Editor
* New Noise Reduction plugin for Image Editor
* New GPS info viewer
* New metadata viewer available
* New image plugins control panel dialog zooming features in 0.9.0
* Color Management
* Working on Camera GUI...
* New image Editor color correction tools preview modes in 0.9.0

http://www.digikam.org/

I'm sure there are more around, too.

It looks like there are tools available for 16 bit editing in Linux. It all depends on the sophistication you need and what you want to do.

I'll try some of the Linux tools around in the near future and see what I think of them.

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Hmmm the Digikam site also says:
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0.8.1
8 bit raw support has been added, you can now view those images in the imageviewer. In digiKam version 0.9.0 there will be 16 bit raw support.


So not sure if it's really there or not just yet since latest release of digikam is 0.8.2-RC1. Good to know that it's being addressed tho.

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It looks like there are tools available for 16 bit editing in Linux. It all depends on the sophistication you need and what you want to do.


Well actually I have only the simplest of editing needs since I'm colorblind anyway, the worst thing I could do is attempt to adjust colors! Some of us just have to take the shot right the first time. Winken All I ever do is crop, rotate and stitch panoramas. If there's some sort of "auto-adjust" for color (in whatever editor I happen to be using) then I might try that and ask the wife which is better but that's the extent of it. Gqview, Hugin & GIMP are more than adequate for my own needs.

My curiosity about Linux photo editing is because I've had several friends mention that Photoshop is the only reason they even keep a windows partition around and I'd like to do them a favor and help them dump the win partition you see. Call me demeted............

I'm certainly always curious to know what a real user thinks of a specific application (photo editing or otherwise) but it's hard to find someone that really uses the alternative instead of just going back to what they already know and have come to expect. These people don't tell me much of anything other than "it's not just like <insert app here> so I can't use it." Well, that I already know....

Looking forward to your (honest) opinions. Smilie

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Photoshop is well liked. I use it, but only because I like ACR (Adobe Camera Raw). lol

A lot of photographers really swear by it (and it's a pretty decent raw converter).

I could live without it though, and I really don't need the power of Photoshop for the kind of editing I typically do.

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New LightZone 1.5. Please try!

Still does not read my .tif files created with hugin.

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