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Post subject: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not?  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 02:07 PM
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I did try Picasa for Linux. It puked in its own shoes and died a horrible death when I fed it my fairly large photo collection. I wasn't impressed and removed it immediately.

Usually I don't recmmend java applications because they are not only ugly but also very resource hungry. Enter Lightzone for Linux.

Certainly Lightzone has some fairly heavy hardware requirements:
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LightZone for Linux runs on x86 linux with at least 1GB of RAM. A 2 GHz clock or faster is necessary for usable performance.

I was fairly impressed. Lightzone is certainly capable of handling all of my photo editing needs (but then again so is GIMP). Lightzone seems to be a very nicely behaved application and apparently handles 16bit RAW images from several makes of cameras. I have only recently acquired a Fuji camera capable of RAW format and have not had an opportunity to even use this feature (and Fuji is not yet on the "supported" list) so unfortunately I cannot tell you how well the RAW image handling does or does not work.

There is a $150 price tag for this software (See the Lightzone home page.) yet the Linux version appears to have no cost associated with it.
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Light Crafts has said it's OK to give away the Linux version of LightZone in binary form, but they don't sell it, they don't support it, and if you contact them about it they will ignore you.

I have seen only 1 issue w/ Lightzone in that it was unable to view a .tif file created with Hugin which prompted an email to Anton Kast. He' s promised a fix is forthcoming. We'll see if the issue is resolved.

I'd be very interested to know what the Photoshop users think of Lightzone. Personally I've no opinion on Photoshop (since I've never even seen it let alone used it). I do know however that Adobe as a company does not impress me at all and Photoshop is outrageously expensive. If I needed a quality photo editing application I'd certaily not balk at paying $150 for good software that performs as advertised.

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Post subject: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not?  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 03:38 PM
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Just now tried - nice application. When it comes to listing pics and creating thumbnails, it is much faster than others. However, it supports just a few (common) picture formats.
I tried some editing, which for me was actually less intuitive than with more well known applications - but that's probalby my fault, because I am already used to do most with right click menues. I would be interested to hear how others felt when using it.
Using ICC works fine - just create ~/color/icc and put your profiles in there.
Will test more.
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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 05:32 PM




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I just downloaded this and need instructions on how to install. Thanks meldawson

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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 06:03 PM
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Code:
su
apt-get update && apt-get install sun-java5-jre && exit
wget -Nc http://sonic.net/~rat/lightcrafts/LightZone-no-java.tar.gz && tar xvfz LightZone-no-java.tar.gz
LightZone/LightZone

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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 06:35 PM




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ok I got this far...
mel@KanotixBox:~$ su
Password:
root@KanotixBox:/home/mel# apt-get update && apt-get install sun-java5-jre && exit
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
root@KanotixBox:/home/mel# wget -Nc http://sonic.net/~rat/lightcrafts/Light ... ava.tar.gz && gunzip LightZone-no-java.tar.gz
--10:28:53-- http://sonic.net/~rat/lightcrafts/Light ... ava.tar.gz
=> `LightZone-no-java.tar.gz'
Resolving sonic.net... 209.204.190.64
Connecting to sonic.net|209.204.190.64|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 8,234,859 (7.9M) [application/x-gzip]

100%[====================================>] 8,234,859 160.11K/s ETA 00:00

10:29:44 (159.34 KB/s) - `LightZone-no-java.tar.gz' saved [8234859/8234859]

root@KanotixBox:/home/mel# cd LightZone && LightZone
bash: cd: LightZone: No such file or directory
root@KanotixBox:/home/mel#

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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 07:00 PM
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2 Problems:

1) Are you sure youre using Kanotix? Because Sun-Java should install without problems, which it did not with you. You can check yourself:

Code:
apt-cache search sun-java5
sun-java5-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
sun-java5-demo - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 demos and examples
sun-java5-doc - Sun JDK(TM) Documention -- integration installer
sun-java5-fonts - Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
sun-java5-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
sun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0


2) Fix #1, after that do
Code:
wget -Nc http://sonic.net/~rat/lightcrafts/LightZone-no-java.tar.gz && tar xvfz LightZone-no-java.tar.gz
LightZone/LightZone


That should download, de-pack und start the application.

Greetings,
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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 07:22 PM




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Yes, I am using Kanotix Smilie.
This is what I get
mel@KanotixBox:~$ su
Password:
root@KanotixBox:/home/mel# apt-cache search sun-java5
root@KanotixBox:/home/mel#
same for Mel$

on error just nothing?

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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 07:35 PM




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Pretty good bearing in mind I have minimum HW required ... 1GIG and 2Ghz
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Usually I don't recmmend java applications because they are not only ugly but also very resource hungry.

If you hadn't written that Id probably not have tried Sehr glücklich
On a completely OT ... Java is completely different on Solaris .. seriously it flies.

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There is a $150 price tag for this software (See the Lightzone home page.) yet the Linux version appears to have no cost associated with it.

Not sure if its worth $150 yet but heck... its sure nice for free.
 
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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 08:01 PM




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I am getting this:
root@KanotixBox:/home/mel# apt-get update
Reading package lists... Done
root@KanotixBox:/home/mel# apt-get install sun-java5-jre
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
root@KanotixBox:/home/mel# apt-get install sun-java5-jre
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
root@KanotixBox:/home/mel#
Could I be misssing some Repositories??

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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 08:11 PM




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I just tried that, and it looks like you are either missing some repository or other, or you are not connecting to one of them, that happens sometimes.

Using the standard debian testing, unstable, kanotox repository list I found the package.

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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 08:23 PM




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Thanks one and all for this help
How do I check/update/ whatever my repository list?

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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 08:25 PM




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Post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list

my guess however is that when you did apt-get update you failed to connect to one of the servers, I'd just ry it again from the beginning. You would have had to delete one of the entries to not have the defaults, which I assume you haven't done since you don't know where your list was located.

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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 08:46 PM
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wget -O/etc/apt/sources.list http://kanotix.com/files/fix/sources.list
apt-get update

That should fix it.
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Post subject: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or not  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 08:46 PM




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Strange things my sources.list was empty 0Bites
I restored a backup that looks like this:
# See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
# CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool.

# Unstable
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free

# Testing
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

# Experimental
#deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free

# Kanotix
deb http://kanotix.com/files/debian sid main contrib non-free
deb-src http://kanotix.com/files/debian sid main contrib non-free

I wonder how that could happen?

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Post subject: Re: RE: Lightzone for Linux - Photoshop quality for Linux or  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 09:12 PM
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meldawson wrote:
I just downloaded this and need instructions on how to install. Thanks meldawson


Well you can just get the version that already has java and run it directly from the directory - no need to install.
Code:
$ wget http://sonic.net/~rat/lightcrafts/LightZone.tar.gz
unp LightZone.tar.gz
LightZone/LightZone


If you want java you need this repo (or another mirro) for
Code:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free


Code:
$ apt-cache policy sun-java5-jdk
sun-java5-jdk:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.5.0-06-1
  Version table:
     1.5.0-06-1 0
        990 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages


So..........
Code:
apt-get install sun-java5-jdk

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