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etorix - 28.07.2006, 03:27 Uhr
Titel: KDE-3.5.4 is trickling in LIKE A EARTHQUAKE

be careful with dist-upgrade today, it will REMOVE kde completely on some systems

Code:

Film at 11

More Will Follow, trust me

ok for now:

Code:

echo kdelibs-data hold|dpkg --set-selections

will permit a graceful sidestep [ta zulu9] see [for DE]:: http://kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... 368#124368

SaberBlaze - 28.07.2006, 03:47 Uhr
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I just barely dist-upgraded. All that happened is that kdelibs and kdelibs-data where not upgraded, because kdelibs depends on the latest version of kdelibs-data, but to upgrade kdelibs-date to the latest version, means to delete a crapload of programs. So those to packages don't get upgraded, and all is fine.

Edit:apt-get held the packages back for me, so who knows, maybe for other people it won't.

markb - 28.07.2006, 04:23 Uhr
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Thanks for the warning. Please let us know when you think it safe to upgrade.

DeepDayze - 28.07.2006, 04:54 Uhr
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a plain upgrade as opposed to a d-u should be ok as well.

jackiebrown - 28.07.2006, 05:32 Uhr
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SaberBlaze hat folgendes geschrieben::

I just barely dist-upgraded. All that happened is that kdelibs and kdelibs-data where not upgraded, because kdelibs depends on the latest version of kdelibs-data, but to upgrade kdelibs-date to the latest version, means to delete a crap load of programs. So those to packages don't get upgraded, and all is fine.

Same here. Neither a dist-upgrade (and of course a regular upgrade) pulled those packages. Just said two not upgraded.

h2 - 28.07.2006, 05:45 Uhr
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only a few people have seen this so far, I got the same, 2 kde packages held back, that's all. But others are having all of kde removed if they proceed, so probably best to just wait, although it's easy to see which it will be for you when you run dist-upgrade, it either removes all of kde or it doesn't.

However, kde 3.5.4 is there, which you can see if you run:
apt-get install kdelibs-data -s

that should simulate removal of kde

h2 - 28.07.2006, 23:49 Uhr
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Today I'm seeing parts of kde being removed, don't do a dist-upgrade today. Not all of it yet, but chunks.

jackiebrown - 29.07.2006, 01:06 Uhr
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h2 hat folgendes geschrieben::

Today I'm seeing parts of kde being removed, don't do a dist-upgrade today. Not all of it yet, but chunks.

I can confirm that

h2 - 29.07.2006, 01:09 Uhr
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du-fixes-h2.sh now has a warning feature that will tell you when there are known dangers present. Of course, it's always somewhat dangerous to dist-upgrade, but this will at least let you know when big issues are known.

Richard - 29.07.2006, 02:56 Uhr
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It's a good reason to get acustomed to a couple of other window managers.
I've been using Xfce but it's in a flux as well as Kde.
So, now I go back to IceWM and wonder, why did I ever leave it?.

saludos.

stryder - 29.07.2006, 03:08 Uhr
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I'm using "deb http://xfce.corsac.net unstable main" as a source for xfce recently (see http://pkg-xfce.alioth.debian.org/ for more info). So far so good. It's currently my main desktop.

Bam - 29.07.2006, 08:23 Uhr
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Excuse my ignorance, but after doing "echo kdelibs-data hold|dpkg --set-selections" what is the command to unhold kdelibs-data after KDE 3.5.4 is finished being upped to sid?

Thanks in advance.

ceti - 29.07.2006, 09:48 Uhr
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Bam hat folgendes geschrieben::

Excuse my ignorance, but after doing "echo kdelibs-data hold|dpkg --set-selections" what is the command to unhold kdelibs-data after KDE 3.5.4 is finished being upped to sid?

Thanks in advance.

Yes, what is it?
Thanks

devil - 29.07.2006, 09:55 Uhr
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echo kdelibs-data install |dpkg --set-selections

greetz
devil

dweebman - 29.07.2006, 21:57 Uhr
Titel: : KDE-3.5.4 is trickling in LIKE A EARTHQUAKE

Unfortunately, I did an upgrade last night. Wasn't really paying attention and now have lost kde. When I try to reinstall I get error messages.

In reading these posts, I don't see how to fix. Can someone out there tell me what I need to do to fix this?

thanks in advance
dweebman

Swynndla - 29.07.2006, 22:34 Uhr
Titel: RE: : KDE-3.5.4 is trickling in LIKE A EARTHQUAKE

dweebman, the same thing happened to my work pc before I knew there were any issues, but for that pc I used the easter rc4 cd to do an upgrade install to get X back (that cd work a more recent X then what I had anyway). But now I know that's a KDE problem, I'd probably try:
apt-get remove --purge kdebase kdelibs kdesktop kdm
apt-get install kdebase/testing kdelibs/testing kdesktop/testing kdm/testing

If you don't have any backups to restore what you had, you could try the above (worth a try, but I'd be surprised if it worked, others could give you better suggestions than me) and if that's no good then you may have to use icewm until kde is sorted out (hopefully in a few days, where a dist-upgrade would then work again).

dweebman - 30.07.2006, 00:52 Uhr
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thanks for the reply. Good of you to take the time. I will give it a try.

Its comforting to hear that someone else did this as well Winken

thanks again

Bam - 30.07.2006, 21:07 Uhr
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devil hat folgendes geschrieben::

echo kdelibs-data install |dpkg --set-selections

greetz
devil

Thanks devil

markb - 30.07.2006, 23:27 Uhr
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devil hat folgendes geschrieben::

echo kdelibs-data install |dpkg --set-selections

I don't understand why people don't use aptitude instead of apt-get/dpkg? It is just so much simpler to do things like holds instead of the above cryptic process. Type "?" in aptitude for help to see the commands, press "=" on a package to hold it at its current version, ":" to remove the hold.

Swynndla - 31.07.2006, 00:04 Uhr
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Linux gurus tend also to be CLG (command line geeks) as the command line is so powerful (but dangerous). The command line is also great for debugging gui apps. As for dist-upgrades, well, this should only be done when X is not running, ie in init 3, and therefore apt-get is the one to use.

I would go as far as saying, that anyone who is scared of using apt-get in a command line shouldn't be dist-upgrading anyway.

gardyloo - 31.07.2006, 01:26 Uhr
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Just did a d-u with all repositories enabled (living dangerously, I know). Seems to have worked just fine. (MY results only of course!) Now up to KDE 3.5.4.

<EDIT below>

Well, I have to make a revision to the above. Firefox (1.5.0.4-3) is really borked at the moment. Pages' renderings are pretty wacky. I'm not sure what's up.

jackiebrown - 31.07.2006, 01:45 Uhr
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the rest hit unstable today so I guess unhold everything that you guys held

LRC - 01.08.2006, 05:25 Uhr
Titel: RE: : KDE-3.5.4 is trickling in LIKE A EARTHQUAKE

Did the same. Now I have no decktop. I know, mia culpa. I tried to reinstall kdm, but all I get is dependency problems with kdebase-data which is 4:3.5.4, but needs to be less then that. How do I fix it, or is it at all possible? Should I just give up and start from scratch?

LRC - 01.08.2006, 05:35 Uhr
Titel: RE: : KDE-3.5.4 is trickling in LIKE A EARTHQUAKE

I should add, because I do not know if this is part of the problem, or a different one. Is that everytime I run apt-get I get error saying:
setting up console-setup(1.7)...
dpkg: error processing console-setup (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Errors were encontered while processing:
console-setup
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dphg returned an error code (1)
Looks like I might have done a hatchet job of upgrading this time.

devil - 01.08.2006, 06:12 Uhr
Titel: RE: : KDE-3.5.4 is trickling in LIKE A EARTHQUAKE

LRC,
dont know whats wrong, but it sounds like apt's got the hickups.
do: apt-get install --reinstall apt and see if the hickups go away.

greetz
devil

LRC - 01.08.2006, 06:28 Uhr
Titel: RE: : KDE-3.5.4 is trickling in LIKE A EARTHQUAKE

I should learn to never try things after my bedtime. Thanks to Swynndla"s suggestion, all I did was installed kdebase-data/testing, then installed kde, and everything is back to normal, that is until I do the idiot move again, and blow things up. Just goes to show you, that a little bit of patience and the right suggestion, and must hachet jobs involving Linux can be rescued as opposed to M$.