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mzilikazi - 10.11.2005, 18:16 Uhr
Titel: Enlightenment 17 installation howto.
Edit Updated and checked for accuracy & checked links on 11/14/06. Please post any problems you might have.
Latest news:
E17 now uses FDO .desktop files most of which are located in /usr/share/applications.
If you start E17 from command line e.g. no KDM or GDM or Entrance you must use
Code:
startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
.
DO NOT use:
Code:
startx /usr/bin/enlightenment
So we now have a new edevelop repository that is updated quite frequently for E17. How often is frequent? About 3 times weekly! 
I'll try to put together a bit of a howto here for those of you interested in installing E17 on your 32bit Debian boxen. Yes, E17 is still Alpha code but I've been happily using it for some time now on 3 different boxes as my work-a-day desktop w/ no worries. OK that's not entirely accurate. Let's just say that you should always keep another wm on hand just in case. E17 is still alpha code afterall. Fear not!
OK let's make this clear.
A line that begins w/ # means "do this as root"
A line that begins w/ $ means "do this as user"
It might be best to copy/paste the following commands. Specifically the first one - you don't want to hose up /etc/apt/sources.list. Yes, you can still edit sources.list with your favorite editor. I suggest using xedit but that's only because it's always installed and supports copy/paste. Use whatever editor you like.
Add the new repository:
Code:
$ su
# echo "deb http://www.edevelop.org/debian unstable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
Install the new key:
Code:
# gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 03CA4243
# apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
Update
Code:
# apt-get update
Install E17
Code:
# apt-get install e17 e17-extras emodule0*
Now you should be able to log out and back in choosing Enlightenment as your desktop. You can install entrance (e17 log in manager) but it has been buggy on occasion so unless you know how to deal with it perhaps it's best to stick w/ KDM or GDM or XDM or whatever you presently use.
*NOTE* If you install Entrance it will automatically select the last user for login. The only way to change users is to enter an incorrect password.
Yes it's a bug. Yes it's on the todo list.
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Well that's it. Congrats! You've got E17! Now you probably want to do some custom configuration! Go here:
http://get-e.org READ the user manual. This is the best resource for documentation related to E17 and it's actually updated quite frequently.
Customization
*TIPS*
Modules
If you don't have a module enabled you may as well unload it since it still consumes resources.
Enable some modules:
Menu>Configuration>Modules
Enable those you wish to keep and disable those you do not wish to use.
To use the modules they must be added to a Shelf.
Menu>Configurations>Shelves
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Edit the menu
Left click>Configuration>Configuration panel>Applications
Also look at the .order files in all directories below ~/.e/e/ to edit manually.
*HINT* Drag & drop .desktop files from /usr/share/applications to add apps to the ibar.
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Get some themes:
http://get-e.org/Themes/E17/index.html
Put your themes in
Code:
~/.e/e/themes
Now you can change the theme w/
Left click>Configuration>Configuration panel>Theme Selector
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Backgrounds
You can use the E17 wallpaper app in the menu OR my favorite is the Ephoto module. Just point it to a directory of images and Update. Then add the ephoto module to a shelf. You can configure ephoto to browse and set wallpapers in 1 click.
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Icon themes
Now E17 has a friendly Icon theme selector in the config panel.
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*KNOWN PROBLEMS*
This is not really an issue any longer but just in case.
No Enlightenment option in my log in manager!
You should have enlightenment.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions
Code:
ls /usr/share/xsessions
enlightenment.desktop
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*NOTE* Some of the apps made specifically for E17 don't (yet) work as well as they could. I still prefer rox-filer as my file manager and Archive or xarchive for (un)archving files.
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*NOTE* ENGAGE IS BROKEN (yes still)
It exists as a standalone app for now but it does not appear on all desktops. You simply run it directly.
*NOTE* The rest of section is not relevant until engage is fixed or becomes a module again.
Engage
Engage is a tool bar w/ zoomable icons.
Code:
apt-get install engage
You must first load Engage since it is a module.
Code:
enlightenment_remote -module-load engage
enlightenment_remote -module-enable engage
Or just use the Configuration Panel>Modules
Now you should create the .order file for engage in
~/.e/e/applications/bar/engage/.order
This file will dictate what apps are listed in Engage.
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Handy links
E17 forums: http://www.edevelop.org/
e17genmenu forums: http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=131470
E17 FAQ: http://get-e.org/Main/FAQs/index.html
E17 links: http://get-e.org/Main/Links/index.html
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More to come! Please leave feedback w/ problems and I'll help as best as I can. If somethings hosed in the howto let me know and I'll fix it. Join #get-e on IRC for some great help from knowledgeable peple but BE SURE to read the FAQ and user manual @ get-e.org. After all what's the point of writing it if no one reads it?
jackiebrown - 11.11.2005, 00:29 Uhr
Titel: RE: Enlightenment 17
I tried it a week ago. I think I will revisit it using your guide. Thanks.
ironwalker - 11.11.2005, 02:32 Uhr
Titel: RE: Enlightenment 17
Nice job,thank you.I never really tried E before,I will now.
Superrakete - 15.11.2005, 18:11 Uhr
Titel: Re: Enlightenment 17
mzilikazi hat folgendes geschrieben::
Install E17
Code:
# apt-get install engage eclair enlightenment-data emodules evidence evas0-bin embryo0-bin e17genmenu etk elicit eterm express epsilon0-bin epeg0-bin edje0-bin enterminus evfs examine
entice enlightenment edb-tools enscribe-efl eutils entropy
You have a carriage return behind "examine". So copy/paste will not install all packages by default for inattentive users.
etorix - 15.11.2005, 18:29 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: Enlightenment 17
fine
ironwalker - 15.11.2005, 21:31 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: Enlightenment 17
Ya,I caught that.
mzilikazi - 15.11.2005, 22:23 Uhr
Titel: Re: Enlightenment 17
Superrakete hat folgendes geschrieben::
You have a carriage return behind "examine". So copy/paste will not install all packages by default for inattentive users.
Hmm how did that sneak in there? Oh well - fixed now!
Mike Shepard - 21.11.2005, 14:34 Uhr
Titel: Toolbar???
How do I install the toolbar (app bar, whatever its called at the bottom of the screen) from enlightenment 16 onto 17?? I prefer the way the app icons enlarge when your mouse scrolls over them. The install worked great by the way. I am just trying to get a desktop to look more like the one on the elite cd. Thanks for any help.
Mike Shepard - 21.11.2005, 14:35 Uhr
Titel: Toolbar???
How do I install the toolbar (app bar, whatever its called at the bottom of the screen) from enlightenment 16 onto 17?? I prefer the way the app icons enlarge when your mouse scrolls over them. The install worked great by the way. I am just trying to get a desktop to look more like the one on the elite cd. Thanks for any help.
mzilikazi - 21.11.2005, 14:52 Uhr
Titel: Re: Toolbar???
Mike Shepard hat folgendes geschrieben::
How do I install the toolbar (app bar, whatever its called at the bottom of the screen) from enlightenment 16 onto 17?? I prefer the way the app icons enlarge when your mouse scrolls over them. The install worked great by the way. I am just trying to get a desktop to look more like the one on the elite cd. Thanks for any help.
That's a common question. E17 has 2 'toolbars'. The default is called Ibar and is enabled by default. The one you'e looking for has zoomable icons and is called Engage. Please see the section of the above howto labled Engage. First you absolutely MUST get some icons and put them in
Code:
~/.e/e/applications/all
. Then run e17genmenu (also freshly updated btw). This creates the eap icons that E17 uses. You can then add icons to Engage, Favorites, Ibar, Startup menus w/ Entangle the E17 menu editor.
Mike Shepard - 21.11.2005, 15:51 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: Toolbar???
Thankyou once again mzilikazi. I appriciate all your help, the enlightenment desktop is really getting my attention. The more I use it, the more I like it. Customizing is the problem which I am learning. I am also comparing with the elive cd (which won't install btw). But ne ways thanks for the quick response.
ironwalker - 21.11.2005, 17:28 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: Toolbar???
I am starting to like E,but,how do I get out of edit mode?I did it once but cannot find the option now.
Its probably right in front of me.
mzilikazi - 21.11.2005, 18:36 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
ironwalker hat folgendes geschrieben::
I am starting to like E,but,how do I get out of edit mode?I did it once but cannot find the option now.
Its probably right in front of me.
Right click any of the modules on the desktop and select 'End Edit Mode'
mzilikazi - 21.11.2005, 21:01 Uhr
Titel: New modules
There are some new modules that haven't yet made it into the Debian repository.
Eloquence, Screenshot, Slideshow & Mount.
No worries, you can easily build them yourself. No need to build them as root - they will install to your users home directory. Be certain to set the --build flag since the debs from our repo were compiled w/ i486, otherwise you'll get a 'module <blah> not found' when you attempt to load it.
For each module you want to build simply unpack the archive, cd into the directory and build:
Code:
$ wget http://get-e.org/Resources/Modules/_files/eloquence-0.4.2.tar.gz
$ unp eloquence-0.4.2.tar.gz
$ cd eloquence-0.4.2
$ ./autogen.sh --build=i486-linux-gnu
$make
$make install
To load the module use enlightenmnet_remote or erme (see above)
Code:
enlightenment_remote -module-load eloquence
Note that you'll need xmms-dev (and/or bmp-dev) before eloquence will build. Currenly eloquence only supports bmp & xmms.
To use the screenshot module I would recommend installing scrot.
Evolume
Evolume is a little different in the build process.
Code:
$ ./configure
$ make
$ make install
Enjoy!
mzilikazi - 21.11.2005, 22:03 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
Mike Shepard hat folgendes geschrieben::
Thankyou once again mzilikazi. I appriciate all your help, the enlightenment desktop is really getting my attention. The more I use it, the more I like it. Customizing is the problem which I am learning. I am also comparing with the elive cd (which won't install btw). But ne ways thanks for the quick response.
I'm kind of partial to it myself. Configuration gets easier all the time. Besure to get the icons and run e17genmenu. THen run entangle (both from command line). The E17 Configuration Panel is being worked on and changes in functionality on any given day but executing entangle (menu editor) & emblem (background selector) from commad line always works. Of course you could easily create an eap for entangle & emblem w/ e_util_eapp_edit and add them to your Favorites or Engage. I'll write a bit more about e_util_eapp_edit another time.
mzilikazi - 21.11.2005, 22:10 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
Mike Shepard hat folgendes geschrieben::
Thankyou once again mzilikazi. I appriciate all your help, the enlightenment desktop is really getting my attention. The more I use it, the more I like it. Customizing is the problem which I am learning. I am also comparing with the elive cd (which won't install btw). But ne ways thanks for the quick response.
I'm kind of partial to it myself. It does require a different way of thinking about the desktop since it doesn't resemble the win32 UI design at all (thankfully).
Configuration of E17 gets easier all the time. Tools to help you:
Enlightenment Remote Made Easy to help w/ enlightenment_remote & it's many many parameters.
e17genmenu Run e17genmenu after you get some icons.
Entangle Use it to edit your menus.
Emblem Background selector. Put some wallpapers (w/ .edj extension) in ~/.e/e/backgrounds then run emblem.
The E17 Configuration Panel is being worked on and changes in functionality on any given day but executing entangle (menu editor) & emblem (background selector) from commad line always works. Of course you could easily create an eap for entangle & emblem w/ e_util_eapp_edit and add them to your Favorites or Engage. I'll write a bit more about e_util_eapp_edit another time.
mzilikazi - 21.11.2005, 22:36 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
Many of the apps & themes & other E17 related stuff is scattered about the net and not necissarily linked to any one place. I just found these and they remain as of yet untested. :/ If you try any of these out please let us know if they work.
Calendar module:
http://student.dcu.ie/~cayeny2/linuxEn.html
Embrace - mail checker
http://code-monkey.de/projects/embrace
Some new themes and misc other stuff:
http://vandango.toenda.com/index.php/se ... emplate:vd
Mike Shepard - 28.11.2005, 11:01 Uhr
Titel: Configuration Problems
Using your installation guide and help, I've been playing with enlightenment for a while now on kanotix. I've got it running good, but am having major configuration problems. I know it's still in the development stage but I haven't seen much of these errors posted anywhere else. I know it's not my computer 'cause I've installed it on 2 different ones. Here are a few of the major ones to see if you have any ideas. For the record I also did a hd install of the elive cd and these aren't there.
1. I can't get evidence running. When I type it at the command line, I get the error
Code:
enlightenment: error while loading shared libraries: libdirectfb-0.9.so.20: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
I tried installing the libdirectfb-0.9-22_0.9.22-8_i386.deb but no-go. I then reverted back to a older version of evidence being 9.8-20050305 and that works but I don't get the info when my mouse rolls over the folders like in the elive version. I read somewhere about installing DirectFB22 but I dunno.
2. When I type entangle at the command line and then right click in the window I get the error of
Code:
*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x082322d8 ***
Aborted
Not a big deal, I figured out how to edit the menus throught Midnight Commander, but it would be nice to get working.
3. Loading the engage module the way you said adds it to the module menu but not in the entangle area. Had to manually edit it with mc. After creating a folder and .order file and copying the .eap.cache.cfg from the ibar, it then appeared in entangle.
K, 2 small things now, how do I get icons for use in creating .eap icons via EAP Editor? And more importantly how do I get the engage bar to not add window icons to its bar? I have assigned icons to it, but whenever I open a file it adds an icon while the files window is open. That gets annoying.
Thankyou so much for all your help
mzilikazi - 28.11.2005, 12:35 Uhr
Titel: Re: Configuration Problems
Mike Shepard hat folgendes geschrieben::
1. I can't get evidence running. When I type it at the command line, I get the error
Code:
enlightenment: error while loading shared libraries: libdirectfb-0.9.so.20: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
I tried installing the libdirectfb-0.9-22_0.9.22-8_i386.deb but no-go. I then reverted back to a older version of evidence being 9.8-20050305 and that works but I don't get the info when my mouse rolls over the folders like in the elive version. I read somewhere about installing DirectFB22 but I dunno.
Well personally I find evidence to be too lacking in features and haven't really used it. Rox is still my file manager of choice. I do have these debs installed but I don't think you need the -dev debs unless you intend on building from source:
Code:
ii libdirectfb-0.9-22 0.9.22-8
ii libdirectfb-bin 0.9.22-8
ii libdirectfb-dev 0.9.22-8
ii libdirectfb-udeb-dev 0.9.20-5
Zitat:
2. When I type entangle at the command line and then right click in the window I get the error of
Code:
*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x082322d8 ***
Aborted
Not a big deal, I figured out how to edit the menus throught Midnight Commander, but it would be nice to get working.
No idea.
Zitat:
3. Loading the engage module the way you said adds it to the module menu but not in the entangle area. Had to manually edit it with mc. After creating a folder and .order file and copying the .eap.cache.cfg from the ibar, it then appeared in entangle.
Hmm wonder why .eap.cache.cfg was not created automatically?
Zitat:
K, 2 small things now, how do I get icons for use in creating .eap icons via EAP Editor?
I have yet to get the EAP Editor to work and experienced the same issues as you have. It simply does nothing but look nice at this point.
Zitat:
And more importantly how do I get the engage bar to not add window icons to its bar? I have assigned icons to it, but whenever I open a file it adds an icon while the files window is open. That gets annoying.
Thankyou so much for all your help
Disable the system tray:
Code:
Modules>Engage>Configuration>System Tray
Maybe try the e-users mailing list. They're a pretty helpful group.
Mike Shepard - 28.11.2005, 14:53 Uhr
Titel: Enlightenment
Thanks again for your help. Unfortunently I already installed all the libdirectfb debs with no change, and have already disabled the system tray for engage. I guess I'll just play with it some more. I just don't understand why the old evidence works and the new one requires a file I can't find anywhere. Oh well, I give it a few more shots. Thanks
Murdoc - 09.12.2005, 16:27 Uhr
Titel:
Thank you for this great manual!
I have tried to install enlightenment, but I always get an error message:
Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
eclair: Hängt ab: libtag1c2 (>= 1.4) soll aber nicht installiert werden
enlightenment: Hängt ab: enlightenment-data (= 1:0.16.7.2-1) aber 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051209 soll installiert werden
enlightenment-data: Hängt ab: enlightenment (= 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051209) aber 1:0.16.7.2-1 soll installiert werden
E: Kaputte Pakete
Sorry that this is in german. It says that it can't be installed because of dependencies. What can I do to work with enlightenment?
Greetings,
Matthias
mzilikazi - 09.12.2005, 20:41 Uhr
Titel:
Murdoc hat folgendes geschrieben::
Thank you for this great manual!
I have tried to install enlightenment, but I always get an error message:
Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
eclair: Hängt ab: libtag1c2 (>= 1.4) soll aber nicht installiert werden
enlightenment: Hängt ab: enlightenment-data (= 1:0.16.7.2-1) aber 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051209 soll installiert werden
enlightenment-data: Hängt ab: enlightenment (= 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051209) aber 1:0.16.7.2-1 soll installiert werden
E: Kaputte Pakete
Sorry that this is in german. It says that it can't be installed because of dependencies. What can I do to work with enlightenment?
Greetings,
Matthias
Well my german isn't so great and it would be nice to see exactly what apt is telling you but I'll give it a go.
Looks like you need some packages:
Code:
apt-get install libtag1c2 libtagc0
Maybe that fixes the eclair error. BTW you don't need eclair to run E17 since eclair is a multimedia player and not part of ecore.
Make sure you're geting the right enlightenment. Looks like you're trying to install e16. (16.7) Yes the versioning can be a bit confusing.
Code:
$ apt-cache policy enlightenment
enlightenment:
Installed: 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051209
Candidate: 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051209
Package pin: 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051209
Version table:
1:0.16.7.2-1 999
990 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages
*** 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051209 999
990 http://gefechtsdienst.de unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
If you don't see candidate: 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051209 then I'd suspect you forgot to edit /etc/apt/preferences. It's entirely possible that you don't even have this file since it is not required for apt to work. Just create it, run apt-get update and try again. Also check to see if you have some of enlightenment already installed. If you have anything from e16 you should probably remove it.
FYI I just installed the latest build from 12/9/05 and it's working beautifully.
Murdoc - 15.12.2005, 12:30 Uhr
Titel:
Hallo,
now I got help from the german part of the forum and switched to english error messages:
Zitat:
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
eclair: Depends: libtag1c2 (>= 1.4) but it is not going to be installed
enlightenment: Depends: enlightenment-data (= 1:0.16.7.2-1) but 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051212 is to be installed
enlightenment-data: Depends: enlightenment (= 0.16.999.022-0cvs20051212) but 1:0.16.7.2-1 is to be installed
E: Broken packages
It would be nice if anybody could help me, because Enlightenment seems to be the right software for me.
Thanks!
mzilikazi - 15.12.2005, 21:38 Uhr
Titel:
You're trying to install e16 not e17. Did you edit /etc/apt/preferences?
Murdoc - 16.12.2005, 09:00 Uhr
Titel:
Yes, I did. Does a apt-get remove enlightenment remove all stuff which belongs to enlightenment? Perhaps I could try to do everything from the beginning?
Thank you for your help!
/Edit
Now Enlightenment works. I love ist and hope to do all things I do with KDE. Does a taskbar exist for enlightenment?
stryder - 22.12.2005, 13:33 Uhr
Titel:
I got the following error:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
eclair: Depends: libtag1c2 (>= 1.4) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
SERVER:/xchange/linuxfiles/installers# apt-get install libtag1c2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
amarok amarok-arts amarok-engines amarok-gstreamer amarok-xine k3b k3blibs
libtag1c2a
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libtag1c2
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 8 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/109kB of archives.
After unpacking 26.7MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.
Since I like my amarok, am I sunk?
mzilikazi - 22.12.2005, 16:54 Uhr
Titel:
Looks like the e17 debs need to be updated to use libtag1c2a. I'll shoot an email to the maintainer and see what transpires.
Code:
$ apt-cache show libtag1c2a
/snip/
Code:
Replaces: libtag1, libtag1c2
stryder - 23.12.2005, 05:09 Uhr
Titel:
Must be frustrating to be a maintainer when one has to keep on updating some of these dependencies which remain a moving target...
... thanks mzilikazi. Will just be patient.
mzilikazi - 23.12.2005, 17:05 Uhr
Titel:
Done! libtag1c2a should be the only required libtag libray.
n00b - 23.12.2005, 20:51 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
mzilikazi , you are great. this is more documentation and enlightenment help then one can find in the rest of the internet. just great. many thanks
mzilikazi - 24.12.2005, 05:09 Uhr
Titel:
Murdoc hat folgendes geschrieben::
Now Enlightenment works. I love ist and hope to do all things I do with KDE. Does a taskbar exist for enlightenment?
Yes there are 2 taskbars; ibar & engage. They are both modules - do not try to simply run 'engage' from cli since that starts the stand alone application engage. You need to enable engage & ibar w/ enlightenment_remote. See the howto in first post.
BUT
The Configuration panel is really improving rapidly. See the
screenshot of the Configuration Panel as of 2005-12-23. All modules can be loaded and enabled from this panel as well as the other options listed in the left-hand dialog box.
To create the eaps for engage & ibar see the howto . First get icons then run e17genmenu.
Menus are still edited w/ entangle which can be launched from cli.
Yes you need to create your own menus which is probably the hardest part of the entire e17 shell. In fact I feel that is really the only issue holding e17 back at this moment. However if you don't mind creating a few files it's well worth the effort. Run e17 genmenu. If you find that some apps do not get an .eap created simply launch the app from cli, right click the window title bar>Edit icon. This launches the eap editor.
*TIP* To get icons working for all applications in the middle click destop menu window list you need to have the correct Window Class for each window. You can find this out by running a small script in a shell and clicking the title bar of any window.
Code:
xprop WM_CLASS|cut -d \, -f 2
Now just enter the output into the Window Class for each eap through the eap editor.
It is my understanding that e17genmenu will eventually do all of this for you but until such time........
E17 window manipulation is amazing and very forward thinking to say the least. See this screen of the window management options. I expect to see alot of changes to the way we look at our desktop in the very near future. E17 is certainly leading the way in the innovation category.
Oh and btw...There is still no usable file manager for e17.
I prefer Rox or mc (or any of the mc style GUI fm's).
stryder - 25.12.2005, 10:48 Uhr
Titel:
mzilikazi hat folgendes geschrieben::
Done!
libtag1c2a should be the only required libtag libray.
Still getting the same error unfortunately.
Code:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
eclair: Depends: libtag1c2 (>= 1.4) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
mzilikazi - 25.12.2005, 14:45 Uhr
Titel:
Hmmm no 32bit OS to test on atm..... You can simply choose not to install eclair as it is not an integral part of E17. It's just a media player. I removed it from the apt-get list.
stryder - 25.12.2005, 14:47 Uhr
Titel:
Oh, OK... I'll just do that then. Thanks.
... right, I'm in. Looks impressive. Will need time to explore and customize though. Thanks, Mzilikazi
kanotixkudos - 26.12.2005, 14:24 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: Enlightenment 17
mzilzakazi, that is a major post!
I have used Enlightenment (enlightenment-0.16.7.2-i486-G2) on Goblinx ( one of its five windows managers ) and find it very clean and snappy. I am sure E17 must be even better. Thanks for the info.
stryder - 27.12.2005, 03:03 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: Enlightenment 17
Mzilikazi, I have a couple of programs that are statically compiled (eg. firefox and thunderbird). Is it possible to add these to the menu? I would rather be able to point directly to these programs. Right now I am using the "run program".
... OK, used edit icon to change the command. Haven't figured out how to get the icon of my choice though.
... just found mzilikazi's instructions to edit eaps... I think I have just configured everything I want.
nemesis - 27.12.2005, 16:11 Uhr
Titel:
I couldn't get apt-get to install eclair (got same error you were getting), but aptitude istalled it...not sure if it will work for you, but ya could give it a try if ya haven't already.
mzilikazi - 28.12.2005, 00:05 Uhr
Titel:
nemesis hat folgendes geschrieben::
I couldn't get apt-get to install eclair (got same error you were getting), but aptitude istalled it...not sure if it will work for you, but ya could give it a try if ya haven't already.
Well the problem is not that eclair won't install but rather the fact that it uses an older version of libtag so if you install it you lose some parts of KDE.
Code:
$ apt-cache show libtag1c2
Package: libtag1c2
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Installed-Size: 376
Maintainer: Christopher L Cheney <ccheney@debian.org>
Architecture: i386
Source: taglib
Version: 1.4-1
Replaces: libtag1
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)
Conflicts: libtag1
But...
Code:
eclair: Depends: libtagc0 (>= 1.4) but it is not going to be installed
If you don't use KDE then maybe it's not a concern. While eclair is fun to play with it's not really ready to replace your current media player but it has loads of promise. e.g. fully animated and themeable (of course). I once saw it mentioned that it might be undergoing a complete rewrite due to changes in e itself. This may be only rumor or maybe not. Just keep in mind that e17 is a moving target.
mzilikazi - 20.01.2006, 21:29 Uhr
Titel:
I have created a live version of Enlightenment 17 for you to try.
Please bear in mind that this disc IS NOT SUPPORTED BY KANOTIX!!!
Don't pester anyone @ kanotix.com, #kanotix or especially Kano himself about this disc.
If you're interested in trying out a live version of Kanotix w/ E17 you can email me.
mzilikazi at mzilikazix dot org
Cathbard - 27.01.2006, 14:14 Uhr
Titel:
I am starting to get the hang of E17 thanks to this thread.
I have tried a few times to play with a hdd install of eLive but it kept breaking on me. (esp entrance which kept losing the E17 option).
Running E17 on Kanotix is a much better idea.
The way e deals with multiple desktops is just screaming to be exploited by sound recording apps. Just throw the mixer aside or the effects rack, slide over to the sequencer....... finally real estate that you can use.
More to learn....more to learn......
Thanks heaps for this howto mzilikazi, it's a ripper.
mzilikazi - 27.01.2006, 15:38 Uhr
Titel:
Thanks.
I think the best way to 'get the hange of E' is to forget all about what you expect from your current window manager and open your mind to new possibilities. I too like the way virtual desktops are handled. In fact, I use 24 desktops. It's much easier to push your mouse from once screen to another up, down, left, right or even diagonally than it is to minimize/maximise or even use the 'Show Dekstop' button. SInce I've been using E17 on a daily basis it's extremely difficult to switch to anything else since nothing offers the flexibility or intuitivity of this desktop shell. I can only imagine how amazing it will be once it reaches an official release date.
As an aside, you really couldn't expect Elive to be very functional on hdd or a good representative of the current state of e17. The development simply moves too fast.
Cathbard - 27.01.2006, 17:26 Uhr
Titel:
I actually use the multiple desktops all the time when using E17. I hardly ever do that with kde and gnome.
The word revolutionary gets bandied about in the software world so often it tends to lose all meaning. Then you see something like Enlightenment and are reminded of the true meaning of the word.
PS: I find entangle a bit buggy. When right clicking an item to drag it off the list to remove it it regularly dies. No errors, just death as soon as i click. I usually end up editing the menus manually with a text editor.
Mike Shepard - 29.01.2006, 03:46 Uhr
Titel:
Has ne one gotten evidence to work on e17 at all yet? I love that file manager and it still gives errors and won't start, but works on the elive cd. any ideas?
Cathbard - 10.02.2006, 12:09 Uhr
Titel:
I do regular updates but how safe is it to do apt-get upgrade and/or dist-upgrade with E17 installed?
Anything one should be aware of beyond the usual?
wegface - 10.02.2006, 14:02 Uhr
Titel:
Nope. e17 doesnt have hardly any dependancies. The ones it does have are its own. So the only thing different in d-u with e17 installed is you may possibly break e17. Even thats unlikely imo.
durain - 12.02.2006, 17:51 Uhr
Titel:
The site http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ seems to be down. Is there an alternate mirror that I can use?
Thanks
mzilikazi - 13.02.2006, 12:28 Uhr
Titel:
durain hat folgendes geschrieben::
The site
http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ seems to be down. Is there an alternate mirror that I can use?
Thanks
It's back online.
durain - 13.02.2006, 17:34 Uhr
Titel:
I have manage to install e17 except for "eutils". Any idea?
When I execute "apt-get install eutils", it always failed with errors.
Thanks.
mzilikazi - 13.02.2006, 17:49 Uhr
Titel:
Well post your errors and let's see what the issue is.
Code:
$ dpkg -l|grep eutils
ii eutils 0.16.999.023-0cvs20060209 A collection of utilities for use with e17 and EFL apps.
durain - 13.02.2006, 18:26 Uhr
Titel:
Sorry, I was not on Kanotix when I post the message earlier. Here is the output when I tried to install eutils.
Thanks.
root@home1:~# apt-get install eutils
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
eutils
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 46 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/939kB of archives.
After unpacking 1171kB of additional disk space will be used.
(Reading database ... 112648 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking eutils (from .../eutils_0.16.999.023-0cvs20060209_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/eutils_0.16.999.023-0cvs20060209_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/e17genmenu', which is also in package e17genmenu
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/eutils_0.16.999.023-0cvs20060209_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@home1:~#
mzilikazi - 14.02.2006, 04:06 Uhr
Titel:
Code:
dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/eutils_0.16.999.023-0cvs20060209_i386.deb
Cathbard - 06.03.2006, 12:04 Uhr
Titel:
This is way too good a howto to drift down the topic list. It should be stickied or better still turned into a kanotix wiki *hint hint*
sopadj1 - 17.03.2006, 20:59 Uhr
Titel:
hello!
I have do all that described on the first post but in my kdm, into "session" menu Enlightenment there isn't!!
I have kanotix 2005-4.
some ideas?
thanks very much 
mzilikazi - 17.03.2006, 23:22 Uhr
Titel:
Well yes I do know what's wrong. I'm afraid you'll have to remove KDE entirely.
Ok just kidding.....
The real problem is /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop
It needs to look exactly like this:
Code:
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Enlightenment
Comment=Log in using Enlightenment
Type=XSession
Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment
TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment
Specifically two lines:
Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment
TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment
are incorrect with the debs.
I'm going to add this to the main thread.
sopadj1 - 18.03.2006, 09:22 Uhr
Titel:
thanks! now work
Cathbard - 22.03.2006, 06:52 Uhr
Titel:
I just tried this and it worked perfectly. Very cute. Impress your friends with this one!
Xplanet background for e17
mzilikazi - 23.03.2006, 01:11 Uhr
Titel:
Cathbard hat folgendes geschrieben::
I just tried this and it worked perfectly. Very cute. Impress your friends with this one!
Xplanet background for e17
Very cool! You could also download your favorite images from xplanet and add them as backgrounds for e17. Then just load the Slideshow module and let is cycle through them for you.
sploenni - 26.03.2006, 19:11 Uhr
Titel:
I installed E17 following the howto on the first page. the problem is that there is no command enlightenment_remote, what can i do?
mzilikazi - 27.03.2006, 13:45 Uhr
Titel:
sploenni hat folgendes geschrieben::
I installed E17 following the howto on the first page. the problem is that there is no command enlightenment_remote, what can i do?
Hmm it should be there since enlightenment_remote is part of the enlightenment package.
Code:
$ which enlightenment_remote
/usr/bin/enlightenment_remote
mzilikazi - 27.03.2006, 15:58 Uhr
Titel:
For those of you that like to apt-get upgrade you may notice that emodules is held back. This is because all emodules have now been seperated and can be installed individually.
*NOTE* If you have the moon module located in /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules_extra before installing the new emodules package(s) you may want to make a copy of it. After you perform the upgrade simply put the moon module dir in /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules
A change in Debian packaging:
The emodules packages is now a dummy package to get all emodules installed. You can search for emodules and install only those you will need/use.
Code:
apt-cache search emodule
Now to do the upgrade try this:
Code:
~# apt-get install emodules
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
emodule-calendar emodule-cpu emodule-emu emodule-evolume emodule-flame emodule-mbar emodule-mem emodule-mount
emodule-net emodule-rain emodule-screenshot emodule-slideshow emodule-snow emodule-tclock emodule-uptime
emodule-weather emodule-wlan
The following packages will be REMOVED:
emodules-extra
The following NEW packages will be installed:
emodule-calendar emodule-cpu emodule-emu emodule-evolume emodule-flame emodule-mbar emodule-mem emodule-mount
emodule-net emodule-rain emodule-screenshot emodule-slideshow emodule-snow emodule-tclock emodule-uptime
emodule-weather emodule-wlan
The following packages will be upgraded:
emodules
1 upgraded, 17 newly installed, 1 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 3072kB of archives.
apt is going to fail.
Code:
# dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/emodule-calendar_0.16.999.025-3_i386.deb
# apt-get -f install
*NOTE* If you have some weird issues after upgrading i.e. double modules or segfaults you probably need to remove the old config files and reconfigure e.
Log out of Enlightenment
CTRL+ALT+F1
$ rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/default/* .*
Now log into e17 again. Your desktop will revert to the default configuration. Configure it as per usual.
sploenni - 27.03.2006, 18:17 Uhr
Titel:
hi, its me again. i think i found the problem why there is no enlightenment_remote command. apt had installed e16. i dont know what i can do against it because i added the entry in the preferences file so he should use the new version. this is the error i get:
apt-get install enlightenment
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
enlightenment: Depends: enlightenment-data (= 1:0.16.7.2-3) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
/edit
it works! it seems like there went something wrong with copy&paste to the preferences file. adding the entries by hand did the trick!
ekp - 08.04.2006, 21:23 Uhr
Titel: Broken Packages
I tried the How to and read all follow ups but I do not see any information dealing with this
Code:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
entropy: Depends: libetk0 but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libextractor1 (>= 0.4.1-1) but it is not installable
E: Broken packages
Any help would be appreciated. Thnks.
mzilikazi - 09.04.2006, 20:54 Uhr
Titel: RE: Broken Packages
Well it might not be such a good time to try e17 actually. It seems that there are some broken parts. You can however try it for yourself. As soon as these packages are fixed I'll be editing the howto since all you realy need to do now is:
Code:
apt-get install e17
That metapackage should get everything you need for a minimal e17 installation.
Falko (e17 deb maintainer) has informed me that he is now part of the official Enlightenment Debian team along w/ Shadoi. This is good news! So now it seems reasonable to expect some large changes not only in who builds the debs but also (as always) the CVS code. When major changes are commited to CVS it takes some time before everything is functioning again. I'll post back as soon as it seems to be working. Let us know if you have any luck but just yesterday I did a fresh install and it is still broken. You will see errors in ~/.xsession-errors relating to libevas.
anticapitalista - 09.04.2006, 21:18 Uhr
Titel:
mzilikazi
Does that mean that the repos will change in the future?
ie this one will no longer be valid.
deb http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ unstable main
mzilikazi - 09.04.2006, 22:28 Uhr
Titel:
Well I suppose there are still some things to work out before the repo gets moved since gefechtsdienst.de also has E17 builds for Debian/alpha & SHARP Zaurus C-860. Yes E17 is running on a Sharp Zaurus! bwahahaha - gotta get one...... . Anyway I digress - The current repo won't be moved right away but will likely be on edevelop.org when that happens.
Cathbard - 10.04.2006, 11:57 Uhr
Titel:
I just tried a dist-upgrade on my test installation and lost e17 from kdm again.
My /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop looks like
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Enlightenment
Comment=Log in using Enlightenment (Version 0.16.999.026)
Type=XSession
Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment
TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment
Cathbard - 12.04.2006, 02:12 Uhr
Titel:
I didn't say; Using this (your previous fix) gets a segmentation fault
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Enlightenment
Comment=Log in using Enlightenment
Type=XSession
Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment
TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment
What was written in there after the dist-upgrade was:
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Enlightenment
Comment=Log in using Enlightenment (Version 0.16.999.026)
Type=XSession
Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment
TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start
I am hoping it will sort itself out after an update eventually. I thought you'd be interested in the results of a dist-upgrade atm. It is my test system.
mzilikazi - 12.04.2006, 17:24 Uhr
Titel:
OK looks like e17 is back in action. In fact nothing was really broken but rather all of the libevas stuff is getting split into multiple packages so you have to make sure they are installed. Please check the howto for latest installation instructions and PLEASE say so if it doesn't work. I won't have a chance to test it myself from a fresh perspective until later on this week.
Yes you must still edit /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop. Working on it......
mt_deb - 13.04.2006, 00:48 Uhr
Titel:
Mzilikazi,
Works great here. I haven't done any of the extras yet just the basic install and all is good ! Thanks so much for all your hard work in writing up and manitianing this How To
Deb
Caluna - 13.04.2006, 08:37 Uhr
Titel:
Mzilikazi,
very good work and thanks for your How-To! Everything is working fine now!!!!
jackiebrown - 15.04.2006, 02:49 Uhr
Titel:
I wonder when - if - e17 will be released 
mzilikazi - 30.04.2006, 16:03 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
OK e17 has gotten over the 'shelf' issue. Some code was uploaded prematurely and consequently there were some issues with modules and the new "shelf" a more traditional style of taskbar. Anyway, the shelf can now be turned off from the Configuration Menu.
As of this writing the latest e17 is:
Code:
apt-cache policy enlightenment
enlightenment:
Installed: 0.16.999.026-0cvs20060430
Candidate: 0.16.999.026-0cvs20060430
Package pin: 0.16.999.026-0cvs20060430
Version table:
1:0.16.7.2-3 999
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages
200 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Packages
*** 0.16.999.026-0cvs20060430 999
500 http://gefechtsdienst.de unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Note the date in the release! April 30 2006. This has been consistent with the naming of the packages so keep your eye there when you want to know which is the latest. As of late new updates have been coming on a weekly basis approximately every weekend. I haven't done a fresh installation as of yet. It's possible that you still need to rename the directories in in /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules
Each directory in there contains a module (duh!)
Using the battery module as an example, each of these dirs needs to be changed from
Code:
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/battery/linux-gnu-i486/
to
Code:
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/battery/linux-gnu-i686/
The same is true for any modules located in ~/.e.e/modules that you may have built yourself. Then your modules will work.
Mike Shepard - 02.05.2006, 05:07 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
Help! I don't know what happened but my buttons for e don't work ne more. (not program buttons) Mainly any button having to do with e17, like Exit Enlightenment, Configuration Panel, Eap Editor, etc. The buttons/scrollbars show but clicking does nothing, no shadow when I hover over them either. I can still close the windows, the title bar still works. I can only exit e from the console. Any idea's on how to fix this? An update did not fix it either. Everything else works fine. Thanks.
Update... Ok, just tried the test filemanger, and that doesn't recognize my mouse clicks either. Only e core program buttons don't recognize it, everything else does, including the program menu. interresting
-Mike
mzilikazi - 02.05.2006, 15:07 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
Mike Shepard hat folgendes geschrieben::
Help! I don't know what happened but my buttons for e don't work ne more. (not program buttons) Mainly any button having to do with e17, like Exit Enlightenment, Configuration Panel, Eap Editor, etc. The buttons/scrollbars show but clicking does nothing, no shadow when I hover over them either. I can still close the windows, the title bar still works. I can only exit e from the console. Any idea's on how to fix this? An update did not fix it either. Everything else works fine. Thanks.
Update... Ok, just tried the test filemanger, and that doesn't recognize my mouse clicks either. Only e core program buttons don't recognize it, everything else does, including the program menu. interresting
-Mike
Hi Mike,
Well the latest upgrade of e17 should have cleared your config on log in. You can always try moving ~/.e out of the way and see if that resolves any problems.
Code:
mv .e old.e
Then log out & back in. If that works, you would then of course need to copy several files/dirs back into the new ~/.e that is created.
McGiver - 03.05.2006, 17:08 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
I'm not quite sure why, but I cannot install enlightenment-data.
if I try to get it with apt-get install I get
Zitat:
Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
enlightenment-data: Hängt ab: enlightenment (= 0.16.999.026-0cvs20060422) soll aber nicht installiert werden
E: Kaputte Pakete
(tells that the package has not fullfilled dependencies since enlightenment v0.16.999[...]22 can not be installed)
if I try to Install enlightenment (Version 0.16.999.026-0cvs20060430), enlightenment-data still complains
so the enlightenment-data version apt-get offers to install seems depricated (0.16.999.026-0cvs20060422) compared to the other packages like enlightenment (0.16.999.026-0cvs20060430)
and apt-get update doesn't update the version of enlightenment-data.
Since nobody else seems to have this problem, my first guess was that it might have something to do with my earlier attempt to install e17 from cvs and compile and install it on my own (which failed, but that's another story). So I removed all folders named "enlightenment" and everything else related with e17 I could find on my harddisk. But probably not everything e17 related at all (since it doesn't work)
anybody an idea thanks
mzilikazi - 03.05.2006, 18:29 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
You no longer need enlightenment-data. In fact it conflicts w/ latest enlightenment. Try installing E17 like so:
Code:
# apt-get install e17 libevas0-all libevas0-engines-all libevas0-loaders-all
Please post the entire output if it fails. Babelfish will translate for me.
McGiver - 03.05.2006, 19:31 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Toolbar???
well e17 seems to need enlightenment-data
Zitat:
root@R-Laptop:/home/roland# apt-get install e17 libevas0-all libevas0-engines-all libevas0-loaders-all
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass
Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder dass, wenn Sie die
instabile Distribution verwenden, einige erforderliche Pakete noch nicht
kreiert oder aus Incoming herausbewegt wurden.
Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu lösen:
Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
e17: Hängt ab: enlightenment-data (>= 0.16.999.025)
E: Kaputte Pakete
(Translation to halfway proper English:
Some Packages could not be installed [...blablabla...]
The following Information may help you to solve this Problem:
The following Packets have not fullfilled dependencies:
e17: Depends on: enlightenment-data (>= 0.16.999.025)
E: Broken Packages
(but I guess the translation is kind of obvious)
btw.:
e17 is version 0.16.999.026-0cvs20060410
edit:
It works now, I installed enlightenment without the e17 dummy package (which still doesn't work for me)
Some other stuff (some modules or e17_utils) also doesn't work, too, since they require a libe package that collides with the enlightenment package.
nevertheless: thanks a lot for the great work and help mzilikazi
Mike Shepard - 06.05.2006, 23:35 Uhr
Titel: Same
Same problem here. Apt-get install e17 gives the dependency issue and apt-get install enlightenment errors with "cannot overwrite /usr/lib/libe.so.0.0.0". So I finally ended up doing
Code:
"dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/enlightenment_0.16.999.026-0cvs20060504_i386"
After that it worked, I had to rename the modules to linux-gnu-i686. The upgrade from .023 to .026 fixed my buttons problem (posted earlier) but now a bunch of my modules don't work: Pager, battery, clock, etc. They only appear in that new Shelf bar. How do I disable it (the shelf)??? Rain and engage function however normal. I just want the modules like before without the inside the Shelf
Switching themes doesn't work either, stuck with the default now (which I'm not to fond of, I perfer the Utopian one ) and as you mentioned alot of my settings are gone to: window placements, focus settings etc. Going to play the config settings a bit and see what I can come up with. Why was it so hard to get enlightenment to update though? and if I update my modules will I have to rename the directories again? Also any ideas on my themes and modules would be greatly appriciated. At least the buttons work now Thanks
-Mike[/code]
Mike Shepard - 08.05.2006, 06:09 Uhr
Titel: Same
Ok, I followed Mz's earlier suggestion and moved the .e directory, then started e17. After it created the default again, I then copied back over applications, backrounds, and themes directories from the old .e/e/ directory. Now I have my theme working again, and all a few quick configs and I am almost back to norm now. I just need to get rid of that damn Shelf that's added. I can't have my clock on the desktop anymore, only in that Shelf, same with the pager and others. After reading countless posts it looks like the shelf is here to stay, no way to disable it. It's supposed to be a lot more customizable soon however.
oh ya, found this too which might explain a bit of my problem getting rid of the shelf.
Zitat:
E17 shelf-code - Falko Schmidt (Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:33:29 +0200)
The currently uploaded E17 packages contain raster's new shelf-code which isn't supposed to be there yet. That means that, except the core modules, no module will work for now (especially modules in emodules).
All my modules do work though, except for the Pager. If I am on any other theme than the default, I cannot click the pager at all, it doesn't seem to reconize my mouse at all. Hopefully this will be fixed in the next update.
-Mike
mzilikazi - 08.05.2006, 13:01 Uhr
Titel: Re: Same
Mike Shepard hat folgendes geschrieben::
All my modules do work though, except for the Pager. If I am on any other theme than the default, I cannot click the pager at all, it doesn't seem to reconize my mouse at all. Hopefully this will be fixed in the next update.
-Mike
Yep same here. The shelf is at this time the only way to have a pager and this pager isn't to well behaved. It is to be more configurable soon however.
For a clock try tclock. It works just fine.
Why was it so hard to upgrade? Well.....it's alpha code.
Mike Shepard - 09.05.2006, 05:15 Uhr
Titel:
Well after upgrading the emodule package, I did have to rename all the directories over again. Also forcing the install of the package due to complaints about directories not being empty, obviously because it was looking for directories ending with i486 not i686. Thought I would post if anyone was curious about updating their modules.
Oh btw after many, many failed attempts, I did finally figure out a way to get Evidence file manager working. I can post how if anyone is interrested, it is however unsupported for over a year now. But I still like it
Mike Shepard - 19.05.2006, 06:46 Uhr
Titel:
hmm.... well I just did an upgrade and update enlightenment to 0.16.999.026-0cvs20060513 and didn't really notice a difference (was hoping for an update to the Shelf). Also upgraded engage-transparent and that is what seems to be causing a problem however. I did have to rename /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/linux-gnu-i486 to linux-gnu-i686, but I still have no bar anymore. The little arrow shows up under what should be an icon when I have a program. Still trying to figure this one out, any idea's anyone? I miss my bar, maybe they made it too transparent?
EDIT:
Ok it seems that the old themes are not compatible with the new shelf code, which is why the pager doesn't work properly and the updated engage-transparent module does no show any icons with the old themes. You can download a new updated theme from http://www1.get-e.org/. Right now there are only two but more are coming or you can learn to create you own
With the new themes your pager module will now work to a point, you can slide windows to different destops, click on a window in a different desktop and be taken there, etc; all from within the pager. But you will only see thumbnails of desktops that you have open windows in. The only solution to this right now is to switch the shelf configuration from transparent to gold or silver and you will have full pager functionality, but will have the ulgy side handles on the shelf I just leave my on transparent, it works for the most part. Hey, at least it's coming together again. I set up 2 shelfs and have my pager in one at the top of the screen and my clock in another at the side of the screen. Plus it seems the cpu, net, wlan, & memory modules are no longer confined to the shelf One more small thing though, it seems the new coding for the themes don't allow the E menu icons to be changed at this time ( the menu when you left click on the desktop ).
Hope this helps anyone who is an E17 fan, enjoy!
Cheers
-Mike
mzilikazi - 16.06.2006, 20:30 Uhr
Titel:
After a brief hiatus there is a new e17 in town. Well let's just say that it became usable again after some serious breakage in switching to the new shelf code. Latest e17 is:
Code:
apt-cache policy enlightenment
enlightenment:
Installed: 0.16.999.027-0cvs20060615
Rather than retype all of this I simply pasted it from #utopian:
Code:
[18:47:06] mzilikazi | agi emodule0* │@ChanServ
[18:47:17] fredforfaen | hmm │ Ajay_
[18:47:18] fredforfaen | k │ ajayc
[18:47:24] fredforfaen | ill have to note that │ fff_presario[18:48:06] <-- ajayc (n=Ajay@59.93.241.255) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) │ fredforfaen
[18:51:15] fredforfaen | man heh im dling like a mother! │ metalqueen
[19:04:19] <-- Ajay_ (n=Ajay@59.93.244.63) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) │ mzilikazi
[19:07:34] --> ajayc (n=Ajay@59.93.254.71) has joined #utopian │ viper400
[19:14:13] mzilikazi | pretty weird to configure │ wwallace
[19:14:30] mzilikazi | not all modules are ready for the shelf yet │
[19:14:32] mzilikazi | but │
[19:15:10] mzilikazi | enable all the modules you want to use through Config Panel>Modules │
[19:15:24] mzilikazi | then they will become available for placement in a shelf │
[19:15:43] mzilikazi | if you do not enable them in the config panel you can't add them to a shelf │
[19:16:10] mzilikazi | you can have as many shelves as you like │
[19:16:19] mzilikazi | each shelf can contain 1 module or many modules │
[19:16:49] mzilikazi | you cannot drag the shelves around - you must use: │
[19:17:09] mzilikazi | Right click shelf>Shelf COnfiguration>Advanced │
[19:17:19] mzilikazi | then choose the location for the new shelf │
[19:17:42] mzilikazi | other options available on right click menu of each shelf │
[19:17:47] mzilikazi | seems resize does not work │
[19:18:27] mzilikazi | some modules like cpu & calendar are still just like they were, enable them in the Modules panel and voila - they │
appear on the desktop │
[19:18:37] mzilikazi | i have not tested all modules
As the new shelf code & modules get updated it will return to normal (presumably). Note that only some themes & modules are completely comptible. The Utopian theme is being worked on.
Sadly engage seems to be MIA at this time. Will post if found again.
DeepDayze - 17.06.2006, 22:39 Uhr
Titel:
Looking good, Mz...I may just give E17 a try. Just wish it were easy to configure or updat without having to dork around with files.
Mike Shepard - 18.06.2006, 06:32 Uhr
Titel: hmm...
Well I did a fresh install of e17 and still am getting major errors. Everything seems to load now and be usable, but the big problem is engage won't load. It is installed with the newest version, but this pops up every time I start up e
Zitat:
There was an error loading module named: engage-transpartent
No module named engae-transparent/linux-gnu-i686/module.so could be found in the module search directories.
Would you like to unload this module?
I've checked the path and it is there, I've looked under the configureation panel/modules and it is not there. Trying to load it manually with
Zitat:
enlightenment_remote -module-load engage-transparent
also causes the above error. I tried reinstalling it to with no luck. ibar works though 
also I am having some of old icons (from an older different install) not being populated in the menus. But one step at a time, any ideas? otherwise i'll post when I figure it out.
Oh ya, the dummy package e17 is still gone from the repo's, you have to grab the packages manually, but eutils is finally back now as of about a week ago So you can setup a fairly workable e17 again with apt.
Also trying to load engage manually in another wm by just typing engage in a terminal gives me these errors
Zitat:
File: /home/Mike/.e/e/applications/all/xmms.eap is not up date for key "edje_file" - needs rebuilding sometime
repeat that by every app over and over and then
Zitat:
***** Develper Warning ***** :
This program is calling:
ecore_list_destroy();
With the parameter:
list
being NULL. Please fix your program.
are the eap icons being changed now and older ones not going to work?
Cheers,
Mike
mzilikazi - 06.07.2006, 21:38 Uhr
Titel: RE: hmm...
OK I *think* that the changes for the new shelf code are almost complete. Some modules are still not quite %100 and some themes are not updated yet either. Good news, engage-transparent is now working again. engage is still broken! You'll get an API error w/ engage.
Code:
apt-get install engage-transparent
. The howto has been updated to reflect this. As usual, please LET ME KNOW if something in the howto is wrong or just doesn't work.
Mike Shepard - 11.07.2006, 06:03 Uhr
Titel:
I am running e17 version 0.16.999.029-0cvs20060706 and have the latest version of engage installed. When I enable the module it would start and works as a System Tray but I could not add program icons to the enage bar. Entangle doesn't show an engage tab either. I remember with older e17 builds I could edit the .order file in ~/.e/e/applications/engage/ but that directory is no longer created. I tried deleting the .e home directory to see if going back to the defaults would help but no solution, also tried installing engage-transparent to see that build would act differently and still no fix. After messing with it further and asking for help on the e17 forums, I found the default directory for engage with the .order file is now ~/.e/e/applications/bar/engage/ , but that directory didn't exist either. So after creating it and coping the contents of ~/.e/e/applications/bar/default over to it and editing the .order file it works perfectly now. So after months of messing with it engage is finally working again However the engage tab is still not shown in entangle for some reason. Hope this helps others with this problems.
Correction: After a bit and a restart the engage tab is now back in entangle. Not sure why it took a while to get added to it but it's there now.
-Mike
mt_deb - 15.07.2006, 20:03 Uhr
Titel: enlightenment data error, what worked for me!
Hi everyone, I too kept getting errors in trying to install e17. That enligtenment data error thing
I am not sure if it was mentioned or not as I vaguly seem to remember this somewhere. mzilikazi may have even suggested it at one point, anyway this is what worked for me. I followed mzilikazis instructions, then right before I did the apt-get upgrade I commented out all the repositories in my /etc/apt/sources list with the exception of deb http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ unstable main naturally. I Saved and exited and then continued on with mzilikazis walkthrough. The only other thing I changed was I deleted the word "eterm" at the end of this line below( not sure what that is but e17 wouldn't install with it on there)
apt-get install enlightenment libevas0-all libevas0-engines-all libevas0-loaders-all emodules0* eterm
PERFECT ! No errors and e17 installed and runs wonderfully.
Thought I would pass this on just in case someone is still getting errors they can try this.
Just uncomment your other sources again when your all done.
Maybe this will help someone else that is getting the data-enlightenmnet error
Deb
Mike Shepard - 16.07.2006, 03:56 Uhr
Titel:
Zitat:
Hi everyone, I too kept getting errors in trying to install e17. That enligtenment data error thing
Just curious but did you add the following to your /etc/apt/preferences?
Code:
Package: enlightenment
Pin: version 0.16.999*
Pin-Priority: 999
Package: enlightenment-data
Pin: version 0.16.999*
Pin-Priority: 999
Also btw, I just did a Dist-Upgrade today and updated enlightenment. Now e17 would not load, I had to go back and edit the /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to be able to log-in, it seems the 0.16.999.030-0cvs20060714 changed it. Also now none of the modules work again. I would recommend waiting on updating e until the next update comes out.
Cheers,
Mike
mt_deb - 16.07.2006, 06:13 Uhr
Titel:
Just curious but did you add the following to your /etc/apt/preferences?
Code:
Package: enlightenment
Pin: version 0.16.999*
Pin-Priority: 999
Package: enlightenment-data
Pin: version 0.16.999*
Pin-Priority: 999
Hi Mike , I sure did
I know it seems a bit strange but that is the only way I could get it to work
Mike Shepard - 19.07.2006, 05:27 Uhr
Titel:
Well it seems engage is now broken yet again. After an update I get this error:
Zitat:
There was an error loading module name: engage
Ther Full path to this module is :
engage/linux-gnu-i686/module.so
The error reported was:
libe.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
after researching libe.so.0 a bit I found this in reference to e17:
Zitat:
On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 22:53:06 -0400 RockerZ71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> I updated enlightenment today (except for emotion and e_modules, which
> wouldnt compile for some reason), and now a handful of my modules won't load
> because they can't find libe.so.0. Anyone know where libe comes from?
it cam from e - it has been removed as it is basically almost unused and a
packaging and maintenance problem. those moduels will need to stop linking to
it. it is pointless for modules anyway.
So if you get this error that is why. Guess we will have to wait for a update the engage module. It has been stated that engage is going to be the offical bar of e17 not ibar, so hopefully we will see an update soon. Thought I would share. BTW it seems that dEvian is working again, kind of a cool module.
Cheers,
Mike
mzilikazi - 19.07.2006, 06:02 Uhr
Titel:
Well let's look at the latest version of engage:
Code:
$ acp engage
engage:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 0.0.9-0cvs20060702
Version table:
0.0.9-0cvs20060702 0
500 http://gefechtsdienst.de unstable/main Packages
mzilikazi@hestviken:~$ acp engage-transparent
engage-transparent:
Installed: 0.0.9-0cvs20060705
Candidate: 0.0.9-0cvs20060705
Version table:
*** 0.0.9-0cvs20060705 0
500 http://gefechtsdienst.de unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
So we just wait until a new one is built from cvs. As you may have noticed most modules are working. Volume module is still dead (I use gkrellm instead) and some are not yet ported to work w/ the shelf code - (CPU module comes to mind).
Have you tried the Bling module? Great composite manager w/ a sIlly name.
Here's e17 w/ transparency. (bling module enabled).
Graphics card is GeForce FX 5600X w/ NVIDIA 87.62.
Note the CPU module in the lower right hand corner and that it isn't "on" the shelf. Hopefully it becomes that way soon.
Also of note is the dev mailing list is the mention of coding bounties! Maybe (hopefully) this will speed up the release of e17.
Mike Shepard - 19.07.2006, 12:59 Uhr
Titel:
Ya I did try the bling module but it slowed my system down to a crawl, but it does look really cool. Maybe when I get a faster computer
Mike Shepard - 24.07.2006, 05:49 Uhr
Titel:
Ok we now have a fix for the engage problem thanks to mzilikazi.
Code:
apt-get remove engage*
cd /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules
su
wget http://www.gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/glenn/files/engage.tar.bz2
tar xjfv engage.tar.bz2 (or whatever to unpack it)
now just load the module and it'll work perfectly again.
EDIT: hmm... had a few problems with this after a bit, there is supposed to be a updated engage in the repo's soon. Might be best to just wait for that.
Mike Shepard - 30.07.2006, 12:03 Uhr
Titel:
Wanna create some .edj backgrounds for you e17 desktop? While one easy way is to use Exhibit to view the image and then select edit --> Set as wallpaper, and then just set it from the Configuration Panel. But I also found a script to do it also and this script can do batch coversions of a whole directory also (which would be nice for the the Slideshow module ). Here is the link http://edevelop.org/buildedje I tried it on a few pics and it works nice, check it out. I did need to install python-psyco via apt for the script to work btw.
Cheers,
Mike
mzilikazi - 01.08.2006, 03:31 Uhr
Titel:
Nice. I had not yet seen that script. I like the Photo module for this task. Just enable the module then add it to a shelf. From the Photo module configurations panel simply point it to your directory of images and that's all you need to do. Images can then be set as wallpaper from the Photo module. E17 can make use of fake transparency w/ e17setroot. (think transparent terminals). The Photo module will set this as well at the same time with no extra intervention required from the user.
I preferred to configure the module so that Left click moves to the next image and middle click sets as wallpaper. Mouse-over pops up a larger view of the image as well as the name. (Nice if you use photos as wallpaper).
Mike Shepard - 01.08.2006, 05:15 Uhr
Titel:
Hey mz, any news about the engage module? I keep checking the repo's but nothing new yet an that ibar isn't cutting it. I thought that engage was supposed to be the offical bar of e17, I read that in a report somewhere before. Thanks (now that I said something it'll probaly be in the repo's tomorrow )
Cheers,
Mike
Mike Shepard - 08.08.2006, 11:51 Uhr
Titel: Update
Ok there is now a new repository with updated files including a updated engage module No need for the engage-transparent as the engage package is default transparent now. You now just need to add the repo now.
Code:
$ su
# echo "deb http://www.edevelop.org/~kaethorn/ unstable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
You may want to comment out the old repo from you sources.list. I'm not sure how much longer it will be in use. I also found a version of Evidence that works fine. It seems the elive team has updated the code for it now . If you would like to install it here is how:
Code:
$ su
wget http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/pool/efl/e/evidence/evidence_cvs20060518_i386.deb
dpkg-deb --extract evidence_cvs20060518_i386.deb (insert a directory like /home/user/tmp)
Extracting the deb is because of the dependancies on the elivecd packages which may conflict. You just need to copy the 3 directories over to their proper place, you'll see when the it's extracted, thee directorys are listed. Then if you want , you just need to update the config files in ~/.evidence for your mime types. The info on the config files is in the man pages, it's pretty straight forward.
Cheers,
Mike
mzilikazi - 08.08.2006, 13:45 Uhr
Titel: Re: Update
Mike Shepard hat folgendes geschrieben::
Ok there is now a new repository with updated files
including a updated engage module No need for the engage-transparent as the engage package is default transparent now. You now just need to add the repo now.
Code:
$ su
# echo "deb http://www.edevelop.org/~kaethorn/ unstable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
Hey thanks for that. I was looking for that repo just last nite. Howto has been updated.
Mike Shepard - 18.08.2006, 22:10 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: Update
Anyone ever got entropy to work? It looks like a cool file manager but it always crashs on me a bit after I start it up. I have all the evfs plugins installed and I believe all the files it needs but still crashes, any idea's?
BTW: Engage seems to be broken again, luckily I kept a previous .deb of it and just reverted and it works fine.
Cheers,
Mike
mzilikazi - 21.08.2006, 00:40 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: Update
Mike Shepard hat folgendes geschrieben::
Anyone ever got entropy to work? It looks like a cool file manager but it always crashs on me a bit after I start it up. I have all the evfs plugins installed and I believe all the files it needs but still crashes, any idea's?
Any of the E based file managers are for testing at best. I don't think you could use any of them for anything serious. In fact it's probably a bad idea unless you're on a test box.
Zitat:
BTW: Engage seems to be broken again, luckily I kept a previous .deb of it and just reverted and it works fine.
Cheers,
Mike
I've seen no issues with engage personally on 2 boxes through all of the upgrades for the last month or so.
Amazing the rate at which new debs are being produced now that the archive is @ edevelop.org isn't it?
Mike Shepard - 21.08.2006, 07:37 Uhr
Titel:
hmm... this might complicate things:
Zitat:
CVS changes and new Section on Get-E - Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy [All my articles] (Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:43:15 +0100)
As you probably noticed, a few modules (calendar, cpu, eloquence, engage, devian, evolume, wlan) don't work anymore with the current cvs version of e17.
This is because of a remove of the old gadman code. The future is the shelf, so this was expected.
Also there's a change in the /Resources section of get-e:
The modules section was long time without updates, the last module eloquence is not working anymore, so i removed this subsection.
So what's left in the Resources section? Nothing? Well look again! Yes, we have a new subsection:
It's called Applications and maintained by Andrew 'sevcsik' Sevcsik. His idea was to have a place where all applications are listed, providing a short information and a screenshot about each application. So hopefully the section is growing much.
If you have any suggestions or you're coding an application using the efl just contact him, and he will add it.
I think I may do a backup before upgrading again...
Cheers,
Mike
mzilikazi - 28.08.2006, 14:31 Uhr
Titel:
E17 status report 8.29.06:
Several modules are not yet converted to the latest shelf code e.g. Engage and Photo modules. None of the themes are yet working including the Winter theme (even tho edevelop says it is working). None of the applications appear in the menus. I have yet to look further into this menu issue. It really isn't a good time to upgrade E17.
mzilikazi - 10.09.2006, 21:30 Uhr
Titel:
New E17 repo for your sources.list. (Howto has been updated). Remove the old source OR change it to look like so:
Code:
deb http://www.edevelop.org/debian unstable main
Install the new key:
Code:
gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907
apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
You NO LONGER need to pin e17 in /etc/apt/preferences. REMOVE E17 from /etc/apt/preferences or you may experience some problems!
mzilikazi - 14.09.2006, 15:59 Uhr
Titel:
Just a little update on the status of E17. It's coming along quite nicely now with lots of improvements and more stability.
Currently, Engage is still not 100% and is available only as a stand alone application which does not work on all virtual desktops but rather is limited to one desktop. I've been using ibar in the interim.
Devian module is also not working yet so no cool transparent RSS feeds on your desktop.
The Mixer module is working fine now. No more missing mixers!
Control panel is also improved and the icon set is almost complete.
Some new themes have been added to get-e.org and some of the older ones have yet to be updated to work with latest E17 code.
E17 is now using FDO standards and .desktop files for menu generation. e17genmenu is still not 100% but it is improving and finds most applications automatically. I have not yet been successful pointing e17genmenu to my preferred gentoo icon set.
Currently my desktop looks like this.
Never thought I'd like a Yellow theme! E17 theme is Kor and the GTK theme is Nuvola Yellow.
piper - 14.09.2006, 17:47 Uhr
Titel:
hmm, isn't this the pub key
gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 7E5D69A103CA4243
mzilikazi - 14.09.2006, 17:59 Uhr
Titel:
piper hat folgendes geschrieben::
hmm, isn't this the pub key
gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 7E5D69A103CA4243
You only need to use the last 8 digits of the key.
Does this mean you're about to try E17?
piper - 14.09.2006, 18:57 Uhr
Titel:
hehe, yes and yes forgot about last 8
zonker666 - 14.09.2006, 22:58 Uhr
Titel:
Uhm, im a little confused, where is this folder for the icons, i dont find it anywhere?
~/.e/e/applications/all
mzilikazi - 14.09.2006, 23:52 Uhr
Titel:
zonker666 hat folgendes geschrieben::
Uhm, im a little confused, where is this folder for the icons, i dont find it anywhere?
~/.e/e/applications/all
It will get created the first time you log into E17.
BTW the ~ represents your users home directory so you could read the above line like so:
/home/usename/.e/e/applications/all
zonker666 - 15.09.2006, 13:41 Uhr
Titel:
ok, thanks. Im looking forward to try out e17 now!
mzilikazi - 04.10.2006, 00:23 Uhr
Titel: What about E17 & compiz/beryl/xgl/aiglx?
Well e17 runs fine on both Xgl & AIGLX. They're just Xservers. Compiz & Beryl are gl composting window managers. E17 does its own window management and neither compiz nor beryl work w/ e17. There is a composting manager for e17 called Bling but it's only a module for xcompmgr and therefor can only do non-gl composting and is really only good for transparency and menu fading effects. In other words you won't get the spinning cube when you switch desktops or the wobbly windows since open gl is what makes this possible. The latest word is that E18 will have a native composting manager.
Latest Screenshot with a background taken by yours truly. Colorado in the fall.
From lists.freedesktop.org/archives:
Zitat:
Wed, 08 Mar 2006
as of yesterday e17 is "composite" ready - ie argb windows composite properly - but it has and will have no built-in composite manager until likely e18 or so.
--
------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --------------
The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) raster at rasterman.com
裸好多
Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本)
Zitat:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:59:01 -0400 "Carl Bolduc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Hi,
>
> Now that AIGLX is inside xorg, is there plans for E to use composite effects
> such as the ones that metacity and compiz are using? Maybe in 0.18
>
> Bye bye,
we have made it clear - e17 is not using xcomposite & friends - they are too
immature, unstable and resource intensive. aiglx SIMPLY allows for a GL based
composite manager to work sanely - it makes it possible. you are free to write
a gl based composite manager - if you like - but we have a lot more important
things to work on that don't rely on closed drivers to work properly or
bleeding edge hardware.
X in general has big big big big issues w3hen it comes to video memory
management in composited environments. if you don't have at least 128mb of video
ram - forget it (imho). and even if you do - the more, the better.
the technology needs to mature - the drivers need to - x needs to.
--
------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --------------
The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
裸好多
Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本)
In other news E17 is progressing nicely. The configuration panel has seen alot of work lately and most of the icons are now finished.
There is a script in cvs called eap_to_desktop and its purpose is to convert all of your old eap files in ~/.e/e/applications/all to .desktop files. Beware! you MUST have libeet0-dev installed or this script will fail. Previous versions would render your .eap files into crap (although it did make a backup). At my request the script has been fixed so that it does no longer do this and instead simply fails to run.
Why the switch to .desktop? Well E17 is getting in line with FDO standards by using .desktop files instead of .eap files. This makes menu building much easier.
Speaking of menus......They work pretty good now - even the Debian menu is there. I don't believe it always finds all applications yet but it's getting close.
The updates for e17 are very quick. Usually about 3 or 4 updates per week. That's keeping very close with cvs without all the hassles of compiling it all yourself.
Engage is still not updated and is apparently undergoing some reconstruction.
mzilikazi - 14.11.2006, 16:47 Uhr
Titel: RE: What about E17 & compiz/beryl/xgl/aiglx?
Small updates for E17:
New Icon theme selection tool in Configuration Panel
New Hibernate/Suspend options in E17 System menu.
Themes come and go in E17. If they are not updated to reflect the current cvs they often times break.
Be sure you are using up to date themes!
Check out the Animated backgrounds for E17.
Someone (they won't say who) has been paying coding bounties to anyone interested in coding for E17. This means that alot of things have been sped up and are getting finished rather quickly. When does E17 go beta? Who knows??? Maybe before the end of this decade.
My guess on the coding bounties is Yellowdog Linux. They want E17 as their desktop. Keep in mind that I am frequently mistaken. Any other rumors?
Mike Shepard - 26.12.2006, 14:57 Uhr
Titel: RE: What about E17 & compiz/beryl/xgl/aiglx?
E17 is still working as great as ever, still using it as my everyday wm. I've noticed that the bling module isn't working currently but didn't really us it anyways. I'm still anxiously awaiting engage and devian modules to start working again, but it's still working great right now, I'm going to have to mess with getting that hibernate working. I would like to add that one important thing (maybe should be added to the main how-to) is that e17 uses real transparency and until the e17 terminal " Enterminus" is working we won't be able to utilize it but there is still support for fake-transparency (which may be removed later) which can be used by eterm or xfce-terminal (my favorite) using esetroot which is included with eterm. To use it just type "Esetroot -s ~/picture.png", then just tell your terminal to use transparency. I have it start with e17 but adding it to your .xinitrc will do the trick also. Also for those of you using Yakuake and want one for e17 to use, tilda works great and is almost the same. Hope this helps some
-Mike
mzilikazi - 26.12.2006, 15:11 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: What about E17 & compiz/beryl/xgl/aiglx?
Mike Shepard hat folgendes geschrieben::
I would like to add that one important thing (maybe should be added to the main how-to) is that e17 uses real transparency and until the e17 terminal " Enterminus" is working we won't be able to utilize it but there is still support for fake-transparency (which may be removed later) which can be used by eterm or xfce-terminal (my favorite) using esetroot which is included with eterm. To use it just type "Esetroot -s ~/picture.png", then just tell your terminal to use transparency.
My preference for fake transparency is to use the emodule0-photo. Not only will it set your wallpaper but it also calls esetroot each time you switch wallpapers. All of your transparent things like terms, conky, audacious playlist window have fake transparency.
Engage does in fact work but not as a e17 module. Instead only the stand-alone version is working at this time (AFAIK). That said I dislike the way it behaves and have had no luck getting it to display on all desktops. I certainly preferred the old engage to the new.
Mike Shepard - 06.03.2007, 18:37 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: What about E17 & compiz/beryl/xgl/aiglx?
If you want to try the new Forecasts module (which is the Weather module with a nice popup showing forecasts) then do:
apt-get install emodule0-forecasts
then rename /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/forcasts/linux-gnu-i486 to linux-gnu-i686
I like it, it works pretty nice. I'm still missing the devian and engage modules the most though. Hopefully they will get updated at some point in the near future.
-Mike
neu2linux - 31.03.2007, 21:26 Uhr
Titel: I'm a little lost here.
ok, I followed the instructions, but I am let with these errors...
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
e17-extras: Depends: estickies but it is not going to be installed
Depends: ephoto but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
root@EricsKanotixBox:/home/eneu#
It seems that the problem is that Kanotixs libc6 is a 2.3.6 version, but estickies requires a 2.5 version or greater... Where can I find that package, and will it corrupt my current Kanotix installation(cause any problems)?
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